Sir Peter Buck

Bring back Buck

Sir Peter Buck - Beware of Separatism - letter R Paterson, 30-11-12

Thanks to R Paterson for writing this letter to the Tauranga Weekend Sun.

It reminds us why demanding racial equality is such a noble thing to do.

In doing it, we’re echoing the call of the most aspirational of Maori leaders, those shining knights of old, Ngata, Pomare, Carroll and Buck.

I can think of no better way to introduce the concept to my audiences than through the words of the great Sir Peter…

Sir Peter Buck - Beware of Separatism - slide 1Sir Peter Buck - Beware of Separatism - slide 2 - one people

Sir Peter Buck - Beware of Separatism - slide 3 - work together

Can you imagine an iwi so-called ‘leader’ of today rallying his people with such a galvanising, Churchillian appeal to their higher purpose?

Can you imagine the contempt with which the visionaries of the early 20th century would have held the Harawiras, Sykes, Mutus and Jacksons, who are setting the Maori bar so low in the early 21st?

Sadly, we can’t bring back Buck.

But we should honour his memory, echo his hopes, and — whenever the chance arises — breathe new life into his words.

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46 thoughts on “Bring back Buck

  1. What great men they were and they certainly had a vision for what was required for their people to get ahead. Sadly the greedy grievers are quite the opposite to these great men and are dragging this country down to the bottom of the heap unless the people wake up quickly.

    Sir Peter Buck certainly knew what was needed and his words, and those of the other great Maori statesmen, should be brought before everyone and heeded.

    The Harawira, Sykes, Mutus, Jacksons etc are dragging their people down and these people should be told in no uncertain terms how deceived they are.

  2. Hi John,

    I have just finished the book twisting the treaty.

    It is an amazing book in that it is a one stop shop in terms of all someone needs to get up to date with the rort that is being carried out while the rest of NZ is asleep.

    This book along with “a corruption of democracy” and “the great divide” are essentially OUR text books in this crusade.

    We need to engage as meany people as we can on the issues raised in these books so as to bring the truth back to the “surface” of today’s “narrative”.

    (I actually was in the dog house for a while after i engaged the wife on all these issues after a few single malts. As a result i kept her up most of the night, however she was somewhat offended when i accused her of APATHY, a power word for our cause).

    I was reading some of Wishart’s stuff and realised that we may need a two pronged approach to this issue.

    It’s all very well providing the TRUTH but those that are so indoctrinated just can’t listen or don’t want to listen as they have been conditioned to view our perspective or even a fair argument as extremist or involving too much detail.

    I had this issue with my wife a number of times as she just cannot take in all the details surrounding the truth of our history, and it’s hard to convince these “probable’s” to read the books that will convince them.

    Back to the two pronged approach and what i found from Wishart’s stuff (not sure where).

    Our other approach should be our own portrayal of ourselves as innocent victims of apartheid policies.

    Advertising showing hard working kiwi’s (or even past settlers) building the NZ we have today, but being oppressed by not being able to access the fishing areas they once could, or not getting fair representation in local govt, hard working teenage non-maori missing out on places in law or medicine due to racial policies, people missing out on jobs because they don’t agree with the treatyist narrative etc etc.

    Images of innocent hard working kiwi’s being derailed by these policies while just trying to get ahead.

    These days to get what you want politically, it is apparent that you have to be the VICTIM of something.

    Well unlike the gays trying to get “married” 85% of NZ’ers are actually REALLY victims of something = genuine APARTHEID policy.

    We really need to play the “victim card” as well as the “re-education plan” to gain political traction with the silent majority.

    In this PC world as soon as the silent majority realise that THEY ARE IN FACT VICTIMS TOO we may have them on our side.

    It’s certainly worth a shot.

    1. I believe the silent majority are already on-side, Jonathan.

      The problem is that they’re silent.

      We need to make them bolder and noisier by showing them how badly they’ve been conned.

      Once people like your wife see that, they’re going to make life difficult for their politicians.

      All the moreso if they have someone to vote for who is committed to clearing the Treaty roadblock.

      My question is:

      Are enough people prepared to stand up and fight on what is a very uncomfortable issue?

      Are you?

      1. Hawera & Normanby Star, Volume IX, Issue 1801, 0 December 1887, Page 2

        NOTES FROM THE BUSH.

        (FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT)

        The fair price that is now got for fungus is causing that article to be sought after, and among the rest the Maoris are not the least anxious to make a few shillings by gathering it.

        The have no felled bush of their own, and not satisfied with trespassing in search of it they are now beginning to be bounce able.

        Mr J. Scott, of the Duthie road, the other day found about thirty of them fungusing on his land, and when ordered off they defied him.

        It was only on his going for assistance that they showed any signs of going, and then they did not leave the place, but retired into some standing bush.

        Settlers are averse to taking any action. As the Maori always gets the best of it, even if the case goes against him the chances are that the settler must pay costs.

        It is to be hoped that should a case of this kind of trespass be brought forward the Bench will be occupied by a Magistrate who will protect the interests of the unfortunate settler struggling through a time of hard depression.

        To many the fungus is the only source of income, and to be not only robbed, but threatened and defied by these marauding savages is more than some white men can stand.

        In the meantime settlers might arrange a signal so as to give one another assistance.

        A couple of mounted men could in a short time remove a considerable number of Maori.

        The festive season is now drawing near and the different ways of spending that merry time will occupy the attention of many.

        For the sterner sex races sports, &c. are always provided, and although the ladies may sometimes grace these proceedings with their presence, this kind of amusement is not always to their taste.

        To the average female there is, I think, no amusement equal to a dance.

        There is the dress to get ready, and the delightful secrecy, with which this and all the paraphernalia belonging to it, is kept out of sight, then when the momentous time arrives there are the conquests she is to make, the soul stiring [sic] strains of the music, the envious glances of her rivals, the whole being quite sufficient to fill the breast of even the most unsentimental with things of delight.

        A ball at Normanby on Boxing night promises to be a great attraction, an active and energetic committee has been formed, and they are sparing no pains to make it not only a success, but one of the most brilliant assemblies that has ever taken place in Normanby.

        Admittance will be by invitation only, but in this the committee have been very liberal, and to prevent the crowd on the stage being too numerous a small charge will be made to onlookers

        December 7.

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      2. John,

        You can be sure i will stand up and fight for this.

        In my mind as a father to a 4 year old daughter, this is the single most important issue NZ is going to face as she grows up.

        We moved to Perth in 2004 to get away from all the maori party racism.

        However after 6 years we decided to move back to NZ as we had our daughter and wanted to raise her in the way/environment we were brought up in as kids and to be closer to grandparents.

        However it appears i had forgotten throughout the years spent in Perth just what was going on back in NZ as WA in contrast is a society where everyone feels equal – believe me the feeling is quite different from how we feel here, where we have to be sensitive to maori and i even tend to subconsciously avoid their eye contact and be extremely passive towards them despite my true thoughts.

        I feel most kiwi’s must feel this way and we tend to keep a “stiff upper lip” and do what we think is expected of us rather than riot against it.

        Upon returning to NZ i was in Wanganui (not Whanganui) and my father and i were talking to a friend of the family who started going on about maori’s this and maori’s that etc and it struck me as quite racist, i had only been back in the country about 2 days at that point.

        What a stark contrast there was a few months later when we had moved to New Plymouth and i had done some research of my own politically as i had missed out on soo much while away, for example the foresoe and sea bed issue, the racism of maori seats and electorates, the concern of putting my daughter into a situation where she would become indoctrinated.

        I started posting my thoughts on Facebook however my friends soon got sick of all my posts being about the maori’s so i cancelled my account in shame at the time.

        I then read John Robinson’s excellent book – a corruption of democracy which cemented my views as being correct.

        In fact these days if i still had a facebook account i would never have cancelled it and held firm to my message as i now realise i was justified in putting it out there for all to see.

        My greatest hate is Political correctness and although i strongly believe in equality for all my hate of all things PC often results in Feminists (new wave) and Homosexuals being in the firing line as these groups have unashamedly used PC to further their causes when it was not necessary.

        I believe PC has in a major way led to a substantial amount of the race based policies we have.

        I suppose i am a conservative now although when i was a student i voted labour for the student loan (how naive)!!

        i voted ACT last election and was devastated at their failure, i believe if they hadn’t failed to get the 5% then we may not currently have the existing constitutional issue.

        Also ACT may have had the potential to reintroduce a bill similar to that of NZ First.

        National has not stood by it’s principles since Don Brash left and will lose it’s core voters (it has probably stolen Labours core anyway).

        I believe if a party founded on a single issue we created while providing a supply and confidence agreement to a party such as national, there may be a bright future.

        But i don’t think it would happen in one term, although i believe that every time this party raised a racial equality issue or voted against an issue on principle of racial equality, or asked for an enquiry (AKA green party style) it’s support base would increase.

        So if you ask would i fight for our equal rights to be returned to us after the experiences i have had, the answer is yes for sure, when do we march.

        When do we do a Hikoi of our own?

        When do we drop pamphlets etc…

      3. I know exactly where you are coming from, Jonathan, and can identify totally with what you have said. I felt the same upon returning to NZ after 7 years out of the country in the mid 1990’s and it has got steadily worse since then with a certain acceleration under shyster Chris Finlayson.

        We must fight it with whatever means we have but I just wish the Sheeple would wake up quickly and realise that complacency/apathy won’t achieve anything. We owe it to our children and grandchildren.

      1. Apologies Kasbar, i was just trying to provide some perspective. However when gays already have equal rights in terms of the civil union bill which gives them the same rights as a married couple i believe the issue of racial equality is about 1 million times more important for the future of this country than an argument over the use of a word (marriage). The racial inequality issue should be in my opinion big enough for groups with other issues of there own to put them aside so that we can unite to gain equality for all races first. After all it would be extremely hypocritical to have equality for all gender “types” without even having racial equality wouldn’t it>

      2. Kasbar, any anti-gay views on this site belong to the individuals who express them, and are not shared by me.

        I hope we don’t lose you because of them, because I value your contribution and was pleased to meet you at my meeting.

        Free speech is not always pleasant, especially when critics are free to hide behind pseudonyms, and I understand that we all have different thresholds of pain based on past life experiences.

        I hope you’ll reconsider, but if not: a sincere thank you for your many perceptive comments, and best wishes.

      3. Hi Kasbar, I am not gay, but the gay community can count on me for support. I hope there are many others here who are equally supportive. “Too much blood has flown from the wrists of the children shamed for those they chose to kiss” I stole this quote, but I really like it. Be well Kasbar.

    2. LOYALTY REWARDED
      Hawera & Normanby Star, Volume XLI, 29 July 1921, Page 3

      INCIDENT OF THE WAIKATO WAR

      Prior to the outbreak of the war in the Waikato in 1863 the loyal settlers of Mauku district decided to celebrate the marriage of Prince Edward of Wales with the Princess Alexandria of Denmark by lighting a huge bonfire on the hill top.

      This was on March 10, and as the war broke out towards the end of that year there was already existing a feeling of unrest amongst the Maoris and of disquietude on the part of the European settlers.

      When it became known in adjacent districts that the people of Mauku were going to have a bonfire the idea caught on, and the result was that on the night, all the hill tops for miles around were ablaze and the scattered settlers had a really good time.

      The Auckland Star says the late Major Lusk was one of those who arranged the bonfire at Mauku, and about midnight was riding home with a couple of friends when they met a party of Maoris.

      In the then unsettled state of affairs the Major’s party were not certain that there was not an element of risk, therefore a bold course was adopted as the safest.

      Major Lusk had his revolver with him, and, loosening the weapon in his holster ready for use, he rode up to the Maoris and in an indignant voice asked why they were trespassing on his land.

      He then noticed that there were some strangers amongst the Maoris. One of these seemed disposed to be troublesome, but the Major soon silenced him.

      The other Maoris were in his employ, and one of these explained that they were just showing the visitors the way across the property, and the two parties wended their respective ways without any trouble resulting.

      It was not until a considerable time afterwards that Major Lusk was informed by one of the Maoris he saw on that night that, but for the bonfires, the whole of the settlers in the district would have been murdered.

      He explained that the strange Maoris belonged to the Upper Waikato, and had come down to the Mauku to rouse their tribe. It had been arranged that all the white settlers were to be murdered that night, and the Maori’s had actually set out to start the work of slaughter when suddenly bonfires blazed out on all the hill tops, and they at once jumped to the conclusion that their plot was discovered.

      It was then decided to disperse quietly to their homes, and when they were met by the Major and his companions they were in deadly fear that he was looking for them.

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      1. CANON STOWELL AND THE NEW ZEALAND SETTLERS.
        Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle, Volume XXI, Issue 76, 6 September 1862, Page 4

        The following letter was addressed by Lieutenant-Colonel Muter, of the 60th Rifles, to the Editor of the Manx Sun :-

        Sir – As a Douglas man may I claim to reply to a speech of the Rev. Canon Stowell, of Manchester, reported in your columns of the 2nd of November last, as being delivered to the Douglas Branch of the Isle of Man Auxiliary to the Church Missionary Society.

        Had the subject been of less importance I would not have recalled to the recollection of your readers words spoken so many months ago, I dare say spoken vaguely, without intention of insult and misrepresentation, and, perhaps, with no idea that they would travel beyond the select few who heard them.

        Yet this speech has been copied into the New Zealand papers, and has been denounced by Bishop Selwyn, the great leader of missionary enterprise in the Pacific, from the pulpit as untrue.

        Mr. Stowell declares New Zealand “to be the brightest gem in the diadem of the society, and a beautiful specimen of the work of Christ in these latter days.”

        Before proceeding further he thinks it necessary to reconcile this with the rebellion of the natives against our Queen, the cold-blooded murders of peaceful colonists, and the utter destruction of one of the finest settlements in the colony, and thus he does it:-
        [“]Who has brought this trouble on New Zealand ? was it not the grasping, unfair, and oppressive emigrants ?
        How did the civilized settlers treat the natives?
        Why, in the way that hunters treat wild animals, they hewed them up and cut them down to make way for the boasted civilization[“].

        [“]Alas! alas! that British civilization should so far forget itself as to allow the aborigines to be cut down and treated like dogs[“].

        [“]It is to be deplored, however, that the dark pages of colonization will little bear to be inspected[“].

        [“]It should be remembered that New Zealand is not a conquered country, and we have no right to tread it down with the heel of oppression, as if it had been won by the sword.[“]

        [“]On the contrary, it was won by the sword of the Spirit ; it was Christianity that brought New Zealand under the sceptre of England’s Queen, and Christian England ought to see that the natives have fair play.[“]

        [“]The emigrants, in many cases the offscouring and vagabonds of our own country, ought not to be allowed to take advantage of the ignorance of the natives, and oppress them as they have done, to a great extent pillaging their lands from them, and then when the natives turn round to defend themselves they are cried out against as rebels and savages, and we are called upon to cut them down.[“]

        Having reached the grade of Lieutenant – Colonel in the army, as you may suppose, I have travelled far and wide over our colonial empire, and over the scenes of missionary labour in India and China, and I cannot but deeply regret to see a dignitary of the Church of England commit himself and his cause by such a perversion of facts.

        Those who have not visited New Zealand cannot form a conception of the injustice and cruelty of these remarks.

        Is it thus these unfortunate people are to be represented to their countrymen after all they have suffered, and with a tempest of disaster impending?

        Has Mr. Stowell’s study of the dark pages of colonization taught him so little?

        But plausible theories in Exeter Hall, and in quiet rooms in Douglas, break down before stubborn realities.

        Those who best know men in a low state of civilization know this truth, that the more conceded to their demands, the more insolent and unreasonable they become.

        Those who know New Zealand best know that our policy in that country has been one continued concession.

        The horror of a New Zealand war has never been absent from the minds of the rulers ; it has tinged every act of their policy.

        No one knows this better than the Maori.

        Seeing that we gave to the pressure, they have advanced; and we have backed and backed before the encroaching savage, till we now stand on the edge of the precipice, where to back further is destruction.

        The Anglo Saxon has endured from the Maori what he has never before submitted to, save from the Norman Conqueror.

        From the massacre of Wairau to the massacre at Taranaki, the colonists have submitted to deeds the remembrance of which makes their blood boil with indignation, and the contempt held for them by the savage grows with the patience of the settler.

        Had Mr. Stowell to deal with these men, he would find that the right urged by Rob Roy is that planted in their hearts, as it underlies all human right, “that he should take who has the power, and he should keep who can.”

        The only hope now left to us of averting the great war, the war not between the soldiers and the natives, but the far more dreadful one, between the Maori and the settlers, is in the intelligence of the former, who may see that it is impossible for the latter to retire further, that they stand on the brink of the chasm, and that any further pressure would lead to a death grapple.

        It is of men thus situated that Mr. Stowell has made these remarks ; but, sir, you may depend upon this, that if the struggle comes, the Maori is lost ; it is he that will go down the precipice, not we, for the instinct of the nation is true ; and if the war must come, which every means under heaven will have been tried to avert, then the native race is doomed, and whatever may be the tale told by the dark pages of colonization, at any rate our race will emerge from this struggle with a clear conscience.

        If the patience and Christian endurance of the settlers can avert this war, they are entitled to the sympathy and support of their countrymen at home, if not, they are more entitled to that sympathy and support than were the English in India during the mutiny.

        The colonists of New Zealand may well pass with contempt such epithets as “offscouring” and “vagabond,” because as a section of society they believe that they stand the highest in the world.

        My impression is, that they are correct in this opinion.

        First, because the emigration from Europe to the country has been the most carefully conducted, and the most select ever despatched from one country to another.

        Second, because it requires something energetic and buoyant to float the antipodes.

        Third, because the tendency of a prosperous colony is to raise and elevate the individual, to give him a hopeful future and scope for action.

        For these reasons I say that if you picked one hundred thousand people at random in England, and compared them with the colonists of New Zealand, you would find the colonists, both socially and morally, higher in the scale.

        I have twice visited New Zealand, and my observations are strongly in favour of this supposition.

        When the Maori will have become a matter of history, when the only trace left of them will be in some swarthy cheeks of the far-off descendants of the settlers, New Zealand will still be a bright gem in the diadem of the Church, but this will be due to the English, and not to the Maori race.

        Every effort of the true missionary is to bring them together, not to widen the breach.

        Amalgamation is the only chance for this decaying race.

        Words then tending to a broader separation are more injurious to those he intends to benefit than the reverend canon can readily believe.

        Your obedient servant,
        D. D. M.

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    3. Wanganui Chronicle, Volume XXII, Issue 4242,24 January 1880, Page 2

      Mr Carrington on the West Coast Land Difficulty
      (From Hansard, July 25, 1879)

      In the year 1841 I was deputed to found a settlement in New Zealand, between 38deg and 43 deg. Latitude.

      I may say that I arrived in New Zealand in 1840.

      I had a letter of introduction to Colonel Wakefield. I consulted with him and he kindly placed at my disposal the barque Brougham, by which means I visited the coast between the latitudes I have named.

      I finally determined to found a settlement at New Plymouth.

      Where the town of New Plymouth now stands there were not more than thirty or forty inhabitants, and throughout the whole Provincial District of Taranaki, including the Patea and Hawera districts, there were not more than sixty or eighty inhabitants.

      I wish to impress this upon the House on account of the question which has arisen regarding the natives who have been ploughing; and to show that all which they posess [sic] or may there possess they owe to the settlement of the country by white people.

      Taranaki was claimed by the Waikatos, who, some short time after I arrived there and had commenced my survey, made known their claims to us.

      The then greatest chief in the country, Te Wherowhero, who was afterwards called King, sent down a chief called Tihaka with two hundred followers ; they were all armed, and came to Taranaki to make a demonstration, and to tell us in New Plymouth that if any money was to be paid for the land they were to receive it as the conquerors of the district.

      All the native inhabitants of the district were present, heard the discussion, and said nothing in contradiction of the statement.

      Shortly afterwards Captain Liardet arrived, and I told what had taken place.

      He left New Plymouth for the purpose of seeing Colonial Wakefield and the then Governor Hobson, and it was arranged that the claims of the Waikatoes should be recognized ; and payment was made to them.

      I say, therefore, that but for the Europeans these natives would never have been enabled to return to Taranaki.

      I beg to impress this upon the House to show how badly the European people of Taranaki have been used for years, and how ungrateful the natives are, and to do away with the unkind charge which has been made against the settlers with regard to their wanting to grasp the land.

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    4. MR FITZHERBERT DEFENDING THE COLONY.
      Wanganui Herald , Issue 574, 6 April 1869, Page 2

      We quote from the Times of the 18th Jan. the following letter from the pen of Mr Fitzherbert:—

      Sir—I write this letter as a member of the Executive Government of New Zealand, and in that character I request the favour of your allowing it to appear in your columns.

      A letter signed by Colonel Gawler appeared in the Times of yesterday, conveying indirectly the usual imputations upon the colonists of New Zealand, to the effect that they are guilty of habitually wronging the natives in the matter of their land, and proposing, by way of protection to the natives, that commissioners should be despatched from this country to investigate and revise their unsettled land claims.

      Without intending any disparagement to the good intentions of the writer of the letter, I think it is to be regretted that he should have intermeddled in a matter in which he is evidently wholly ignorant of the facts of the case.

      There is at this time in operation in the colony a tribunal called the “Native Lands Court,” constituted by Act of the General Assembly, to which every native may resort for the purpose of establishing his title to land. The judges of this court are independent of the Government.

      Upon establishing his title before this tribunal, every native may obtain a certificate of title to his land, and dispose of it as freely as a European.

      The Native Lands Court was brought into practical operation by Mr Weld’s Government about four years ago, and many hundred thousand acres have already passed through it, at a heavy charge to the Colony.

      As regards the abandonment of the confiscated lands, which Colonel Gawler proposes, I would only remark that whatever difference of opinion there may be upon the policy of confiscating the lands of natives in open rebellion against the Queen, that policy has been adopted with the sanction the Imperial Government.

      The abandonment of such lands would be interpreted by the natives as a sign of weakness, and would doubtless lead to fresh aggression on their part.

      There is no mistake greater than to imagine that the Government or the colonists of New Zealand have any interest to serve in extending the area of confiscation, or that the present war has been on with any other object than self-defence and the maintenance of the Queen’s Sovereignty.

      I have the honor to be, Sir, your most obedient servant,

      William Fitzherbert.
      21, Cockspur-street, 16th January.

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    5. Johnathon – regarding your point about the ‘victim card’ – just the other day I made the same statement in an email.

      What I have posted on here from Papers Past has only just scratched the surface of the evidence I have regarding how our forefathers were treated, by Maori, Government and their own countrymen from the ‘Mother land’.

      I am just wondering if you would like to exchange emails via John Ansell, and I can forward you some of the articles that I have – if you are interested in reading them that is?

      Derejk, Mike, Marvin et al – I think a letter under the OIA should be sent to the Tauranga Council to ask how much of the Tauranga rates is funneled into the Iwi pockets and for what reasons.

      Just wondering if we could do the same with the Port of Tauranga?

      1. I am away for a few days but will make an attempt to find out when I get back. I know that they won’t be able to tell me….hell, I’m just one of those annoying rate payers who expect accountability, and will for sure, be given the runaround. The iwi payments are likely “confidential” anyway, but I will definitelt make enquiries. Keep up the good work!

      2. Hi Trina,

        Fascinating findings from papers past. Apparently this settler guilt of our has been going on since almost “day one”! The part-maori realise this and have obviously been taking advantage of it all this time to a degree. That makes it even more incredulous that the settler descendants have not woken up in a strongly activist sense until now. Ironically however as we know many of today’s maoris are also settle descendants with not much less european blood than mine i imagine. How can we have been so apathetic and apologetic for so so long? One thing i think would help wake us up to this take over is when the foreshore/seabed claims start getting approved and NZ’er find they can’t access beaches or fishing areas at certain times or because of so called tapu sites. Could we use the official information act to obtain up to date information as to how these claims are progressing. It appears there are numerous claims so far.

  3. I thought ‘Twisting The Treaty’ was available in all Paper Plus stores. Not in South Island. A Christchurch Paper Plus store has just told me that only Nelson branch has any stock and they don’t plan to get any in. I’ll have to order one.

  4. What a pity more and more people don’t approach their bookshops and ask about the book. If told the same as the Christchurch Paper Plus, they should ask why not, then protest and tell the shop what they think of their attitude. Obviously they know about Nelson so must have already had enquiries.

    There are several bookshops in Nelson stocking the book. I went into the one near me the other day and several copies were prominently displayed. I was also told that they’d also had a number of enquiries about it.

  5. Yes EVERYONE needs to stand up and complain loudly about these types of oppression.

    If you can’t find the book and the bookshop don’t seem inclined to stock it I recommend asking as loudly as possible “What is the matter? Is this a racist company? Why won’t you stock a book about the truth?” You have to use their own PC game and rules against them. They hate having attention drawn to themselves and their foibles questioned.
    I recall John Tamihere (of all people!) explaining this when he was at odds with Aunty Helen and the rest of the wimmin in the Labour Caucus. When they tried to corner and pressure him he would say ‘this conversation is making me uncomfortable. I am feeling attacked and threatened by your comments and the number of you. I do not have a support person or advocate here to help me”. He said this type of response worked a trick. They did not know how to cope with it as it was a tactic they often pulled themselves and they would back away.

    A while ago both my parents in law ended up in hospital at the same time, one needing emergency stomach surgery he was not expected to survive and the other with a stroke. My wife, 2 youngish children and I turned up to visit them 1/2 an hour outside of the official ward visiting hours. Next door was a ‘Maori’ ward where the ‘whanau’ can waltz in and out at whatever time and in whatever numbers they like.
    The charge nurse glared at us as we entered the ward and asked if we were ‘trying to visit’. We said yes. She launched into a none too polite tirade about needing to keep to visiting hours and indicated that we should leave. I saw red. I got in her face and said loudly “What the hells the matter? Are we the wrong bloody colour?” She didn’t know what to do or say. She knew their double standards had been challenged and exposed. She scuttled off and we had no further trouble.

    1. Good on you, Mike.

      We need to stand up to each one of these double standards until the racist tag transfers to where it rightly belongs.

      Unfortunately, jolting a population awake does involve getting angry. Indeed, without anger, very little changes.

      And that is the problem with New Zealanders. Far too many would rather surrender their country than work themselves into any sort of lather to defend it.

      Let’s hope we can stir up the necessary passion, because our lying opponents have plenty.

    2. Hi Mike,

      After reading what your parent went through i visited a few of our hospitals internet sites as well as google searching maori health.

      I was amazed at what i found.

      For example, student thesis’ about how maori need to have their own space in a hospital and be with other maoris (there isn’t even a real maori in existence anymore), also maori need to create a “cultural umbrella” so they don’t feel threatened in a hospital environment which is a Pakeha creation apparently (would they prefer to be left out in the cold like they used to be by their own healers), also the extra respect nurses should take when dealing with maori and the needs of their whanau.

      It’s absolutely ridiculous isn’t it?

      Either they want the benefits of modern medicine and the culture it brings – which our ancestors spent generations developing (be it asian or european), or they can have their own culture’s version of medicine, where the average life expectancy was about 25 years apparently.

      These part-maoris want to basically have their cake and eat it too – they always have and always will as long as we appease their every whim and claim of poor us look what you have done to our people blah blah blah.

      It is the same with european technology developed existing since (say) 1840, part-maori have gladly used and taken advantage of this INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY of our ancestors and in fact the INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY of our descendants in europe (and asia for those kiwi’s of asian descent) up to the present day.

      WHY can’t we have a grievance that they have simply stolen that technology or used it without licensing fees since 1840?

      That would certainly even things out somewhat wouldn’t it.

      But no, it all comes back to the fact that only those of us of maori descent can have our cake and eat it (and others) too, the rest of us must give up part of our cake sadly.

      1. One of my great grandfathers invented/bult the double decker cattle trucks, and another the kiddies three wheel bicycle or tricycle.

        We have proof of all this . . . hmmmm . . . I wonder if my family should start charging Iwi for ‘Intellectual Property’ when they go to buy them?

  6. Good on you Mike. I also have no hesitation complaining on being on the receiving end of the race card. The sad thing is, usually I am complaining to non-maori who have been brainwashed into wishing they were maori!!

    Isn’t it ridiculous how this government fall over themselves throwing our hard earned tax dollars at any maori grievance, no matter how outlandish and false, yet have just come up with a tax on car parks to penalise anybody, who through hard work, has climbed the corporate ladder and managed to get a car park in their company carpark!!! I wonder if Tipene’s car park will be exempt?!

    I saw on the TV news tonight a maori who claims he owns a lake near Levin going to court for assaulting members of the public that he said were not welcome on his lake!! What ya all reckon? A conviction… or get off because of his unquestionable dignified maori mana struggling under the years of pakeha oppression weighing heavily on his shoulders?! Apparently, it’s the most polluted lake in NZ….pakehas fault ….of course!!

  7. It is worth noting that the Geneology of the following maori politician/statesmen all included european ancestry.
    Sir Peter Buck
    Father Irishman William Henry Buck
    Sir Maui Pomare
    Grandfather John Nicol
    Sir Apirana Ngata
    Grandmother Katerina Naki 1/2 caste Ngati Porou..

  8. Mokomoko Bill.
    http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.co.nz/2013/03/mike-butler-mokomoko-and-gullible-mp.html

    I have followed this quite closely. If passed this Bill has the potential to open up claims to individual families who claim descent from some ancestor who they feel was wronged.
    Note the following as reported in the Herald 9th March 2013-
    “The current bill is unlike any other piece of legislation passed before in New Zealand. That’s acknowledged by the committee chairman, Tau Henare, who told the descendants there was still time for changes to be made before its final passage into law.

    I don’t think I’m getting ahead of myself … but what you want you’ll most probably get. I have a funny feeling that we may break a few rules on the way.”

    If there is time for change get on to your MP and tell them that the bill is affront to natural justice.

    1. Hi Graeme,

      The question is: once history is rewritten, how do we then re-rewrite it? So much damage has been done in this revisionist rewriting process i just cannot see how we can reverse it all. Are we all, and our children all destined to live under a history which is made up of revisionist lies?? I am at the point of considering whether my daughter should be home-schooled or not. She is enrolled in a good public school in Rotorua at present, however i am certain based on the material she is exposed to at kindy etc that she will imediatedly be exposed to the indoctrination that the revisonists want aka Healing our History etc. If i do nothing else in my life, i am determined to not have her swallow this bullshit as she progresses through education – but how. The only option appears to be home-schooling, where i can teach her the real history of our country and she can appreciate our european history through the centuries without the guilt that the state system wants to instill in her. This little girl when she was not more than 3 and a half came home from our local kindy and exclaimed “i’m a maori!” To say i was shocked is an understatement, But that is what they want all the little kids to think they are it appears. Playdough was not allowed due to maori hocus pocus, how far does it have to go?!!

      1. Perhaps all is not lost. I was in Whitcoulls this afternoon and “The Great Divide” by Ian Wishart is one of the top 5 sellers in the NZ History and Biographies section. Keep pushing back whenever you can and we will build momentum.

      2. I don’t want to alarm you unduly, Jonathan, but Rotorua is a very Maorified place (I have family who live there) although I can’t speak for your daughter’s school. It’s hard to imagine that there won’t be indoctrination there though. It’s all very worrying.

        Whatever you decide to do re home-schooling I would certainly see that she learns from you the correct history. There is enough written confirmation out there. Perhaps if she learned both versions and others also did, eventually they would start the push-back – hopefully. We must do something before then though.

      3. Jonathan, this Bill is not just about the re-writing history it is the potential ongoing negative outcomes which are hinted at by Tau Henare and stated more implicitly by Pita Sharples at the first reading of the Bill-

        “The next stage will be to address the historical Treaty claims of Te whānau ā Mokomoko, and explore ways of providing an appropriate tribute”

        The Waitangi Tribunal also recommended that the rules should be ignored in this case.
        If the Politicians as a result of this Bill start accepting claims for supposed unproven wrongs to Individuals then the floodgates will be well and truly opened.
        I am about to email my MP and ask that he votes against this Bill as it is a complete travesty.

  9. The progapanda is in all the schools. My son came home last week with a book on the Battle of Gate Pa. He had to transcript sections of it to ‘learn about it’.

    A brief history of this battle is that the local BOP tribes had supported and assisted the Waikato tribes in their rebellion during the ‘Waikato Wars’. The chief believed that the British would take action against him because of this so he built a heavily fortified Pa to repel them.
    The British failed to respond to this so he began to taunt and provoke them. Eventually the British mustered a force and attacked the Pa.
    The Maori defenders were vastly outnumbered and were pounded all day with cannons which destroyed large sections of the Pa. However the Pa had been cleverly constructed with bomb proof shelters and trenches which shielded most of the defenders from harm. When the barrage was lifted and ground forces sent in expecting to find minimal resistance they where ambushed and suffered large losses. They withdrew until the next day.
    The battle became famous because the British losses were the largest of any NZ campaign and for the actions of some Maori after the British withdrew. It was customary for Maori to kill and often desecrate any wounded enemy but on this occasion some Maori women took water to the wounded British left behind by the retreat and they were not further harmed.
    When the British attacked again the following day they found Maori had fled during the night and the Pa was empty apart from the dead and wounded British. The battle was regarded as a victory for the British despite the heavy losses as it drove the rebellious Maori from the area and they never managed to effectively regroup.

    The book my son brought home follows the outline of this story but is insidiously inaccurate. It claims that before the battle Maori were did not want to fight and were reluctant to engage the British regarding them as ‘friends’. This is not accurate according to the historical record. In describing the battle the book seemed to delight in the resourcefulness of the Maori designers of the Pa and carry a certain smug condescending attitude towards the foolish British who thought they had destroyed the defenders only to be ambushed. It portrays a Maori husband and wife involved in the battle as having a European style relationship and marriage when the reality at the time was vastly different. And it highlights repeatedly the act of taking water to the wounded with the Maori declaring ‘they are our friends’ and shaking their heads at the British for having forced them to fight and kill them.

    All very nauseating.

    1. Hi Mike,

      So would you be an advocate for homeschooling based on these types of experiences? I know in the States homeschooling is becoming very popular, not just for the religious fringe but for conservative minded american’s not wanting their kids indoctrinated with PC progressive world views. The same case could be made here, for not only avoiding the indoctrination that comes from the political hold the unions have on the education system but also for countering the treatyist’s agenda and revisionist anti-colonial history.
      I have been considering it seriously, although i realise the loss of income would be significant. I ask myself do i really want my daughter to be unknowingly fed all these lies to the point where when she comes out of school in 12 years we end up at polar opposites of the political spectrum and she is just another mindless green’s voter loaded with a sorts of colonial guilt, for example. I am hoping something suitable may pop up in terms of a charter school, fingers crossed.

      1. A definite possibility Jonathan. For our part my family regularly has conversations about the deterioration of equality and race relations in NZ and the reasons for this – ie tribalism and immorality. We try not to load the kids up too much but try and ensure they know the truth.
        For example with this book I spent some time outlining what really happened and the probable reasons why the authors chose to misrepresent the truth, which could involve having a vested interest in promoting the fraud or simple ignorance.

  10. CHIVALRY IN WAR.
    Press, Volume V, Issue 536, 19 July 1864, Page 2

    In the midst of this miserable war one turns to any thing like chivalry and romance with singular pleasure.

    The following scraps came from the pen of a Northern correspondent : —

    ln the escape from Orakau, a militiaman who was pursuing a Maori, cut him down with a slight flesh wound.

    When the soldier dismounted to take his man prisoner, or kill him should resistance compel it, he found that it was not a man whom he had cut down but a pretty half-caste girl.

    He took her up, brought her to the surgeon, and had her cared for and tenderly nursed and now he has written to her brother, a Maori scholar in St. Stephen’s School at Auckland, to ask her hand in marriage.

    Here is another of the same character.

    After the fight at the Gate pa at Tauranga one of the wounded officers who were left in the pa asked for a drink of water.

    A Maori went down to the swamp at the risk of his life to get a drop of water for his wounded enemy.

    The Maori was shot by our men in the attempt and was taken prisoner, and when the next day it was known on what errand he had been going when wounded, surgeon and men vied with one another in doing all they could for him.

    But his leg had to be amputated, and the poor fellow died.

    http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=CHP18640719.2.11&cl=search&srpos=24&e=——-10–21—-0War+Gate+Pa+Maori–&st=1

      1. He has. But hopefully he will give Willie the right of reply to me again, as he is a gift from God.

        In this week’s rant are two priceless ‘oarsome’ moments:

        1. (Pretending to quote me) “Willie you are just dumb and no nothing about history.”

        2. “The big trick of racists is to call everyone else racist.” Ah Willie, so… given that, in two columns so far, you’ve called me a racist 12 times, and I’ve called you a racist, um… (just doing the maths) … 0 times, who by your own excellent definition is the racist?

  11. It could be productive at this time to solicit the opine of the Prof on this particular CONundrum and ponder the depth of it all whilst standing back far enough to peruse the overall bigger picture in its very complex entirety and perhaps enjoy an amber beverage whilst assuming the onerous yet vitally important task of further research and the subsequent formation of higher thought neccesary for another refreshment as a fair and just reward for expanding ones reportoire of knowledge based fact to further chew on as it were… Now if you will excuse me please I have to go to the fridge again have a great day.

  12. Of late there has thankfully been more people waking up to what has been going on slowly over the decades yet more lately at a helter skelter pace n.b. the CONstitutional Review Panel etc.

    Whilst it has been pleasing to see all the comments at various sites by various people none at this time seem as poignent to myself as an article on the Franklin Elocal site re: Ngapuhi Chief David Rankin, good on him for speaking out over what the article covers and good on the People for finding their voices and speaking out finally 🙂

    Praise in my opinion should be directed at the Editors and staff of said Publications, they should be supported for doing whats right by their Countrymen by keeping them abreast of what mainstream media wouldnt touch with a bargepole yet if they do make an effort it is usually through biased interviews rather than true meritorious Journalism expressing both viewpoints without Judgement nor favour.

    Well done everyone and stop for nothing as unsanitised “truth does matter”

      1. Sorry for the delay in my response to you Helen And yes many thanks for stepping up to the mark in my absence Steve well done 🙂

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