Constitutional Review, Sunday Star-Times

Vote in the Sunday Star-Times Constitution Poll

I urge all readers to vote in the Sunday Star-Times poll on constitutional matters.

The article is disappointingly flippant, many of the questions are childish, and the ‘Yep/Nope’ options pathetic for a serious newspaper.

But you’ll need to hold your nose and answer them all if you want to register your views on Maori seats and the entrenchment of the Treaty.

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85 thoughts on “Vote in the Sunday Star-Times Constitution Poll

    1. Hi Racheal. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  1. Sorry JA, but looking at the list for preferred President, I chose ‘other’ and inserted your name! Unlike the other options, I trust you and am fairly certain you do indeed possess a backbone!

      1. So did another guy who just wrote to me. That should ensure I don’t come last!

        I nominated Sir Peter Snell (who should have been a Sir decades ago).

      2. Hi Marvin. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

    1. Hi. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  2. Here’s our chance to get the 100 day referendum political system ‘out there’… if you agree it’s one way we can minimise runaway political decisions and antics

    1. Hi Carol. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  3. ********** IMPORTANT ***********
    If you’re not already aware, the government, pushed by the Maori Party, are undertaking a major project at the moment which could result in the creation and adoption of a formal written Constitution for New Zealand for the first time ever!!

    This is a BIG deal as the Constitution, as in the USA, will be the key document that will underpin all our laws and dictate the way we live our lives, our country is run and how society, and life for us all, is lived in New Zealand.

    A Key aspect of the project is the determination of if/how the Treaty is incorporated into the Constitution. The fundamental risk here is that if the Treaty is forever enshrined in the Constitution, it may (and likely will) create 2 classes of Citizen ….. Maori, who have additional rights and privileges and non-Maori who are effectively a slightly underclass people with secondary rights and privileges.

    Sadly, back-room political deals, political correctness and minority/factional lobbying has allowed the powerful review panel to be “stacked” with Maori and/or pro-Maori Pakeha meaning that 95% of the panel’s recommendations are, strangely enough, pro-Maori and discriminatory against non-Maori!

    The bottom line is that our beautiful country has been torn enough by the outspoken and separatist radical minority driven by hate, a distant memory of injustice, power and greed. For New Zealand to genuinely move forward as a people, society and country we must be ONE for the sake of our children and grandchildren. We must have complete equality for all and rid ourselves of this flawed thinking that ongoing positive discrimination for the distant relatives of historical injustices will ever be anything more than a plaster over a festering sore.

    The truth is that we all know there were many injustices in our early colonial history and formative years but we must also remember the vast majority of these were many, many years ago when the world, societal values, laws, expectations were very different. It was a distant time and the real victims and perpetrators have long since passed. The very, very ,very last thing New Zealand needs, if we’re going to be a success in the 21st century and a great place to raise our kids, is to enshrine two classes of citizen, a separatist Constitution and countless more generations born into a victim mindset and with an expectation of something they have not earned or worked for. I defy anyone to argue how this can ever be a good thing!

    I encourage as many people as possible to become engaged in what is happening with the development of the Constitution or you risk having a solution you may regret forever just dumped on you! There is an online Poll you may like to complete:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8605428/Talking-about-a-New-Zealand-constitution

    or you may like to sign up to: http://www.nzcpr.com/ConstitutionalReview.htm
    for ongoing information and developments.

    This is not just another thing you can ignore guys – please read up and become informed and then whatever involvement or decisions you will at least have been part of the process!

    God Bless

    Talking ’bout a . . . constitution
    http://www.stuff.co.nz
    Why is the Government pleading with everyone to start talking about the way NZ is being run?

    Talking ’bout a . . . constitution
    http://www.stuff.co.nz
    Why is the Government pleading with everyone to start talking about the way NZ is being run?

    1. “The truth is that we all know there were many injustices in our early colonial history and formative years”

      Any examples you could share?

      1. No but there are many documented and I don’t think you have to be a rocket scientist to realise there would have been uneducated and nieve Maori taken advantage of by the early colonialists and settlers as well as officials from the Crown, military etc. and I’m sure there were also abuse, assault, killing and the like in the very early days – on both sides. This happened everywhere in the world. Look at what happened to Captain Cook in the islands after he discovered Australia and New Zealand – speared and murdered by the natives and I’m pretty sure he wasn’t a ferocious, murderer – he was simply an explorer and had previously made friends and trades with various natives. The point is that it was a different time, it was “normal” practice and completely different people (today’s NZ non-Maori) cannot be collectively be asked to pay for what may or may not have happened 200 years ago to people who may or may not have been the “original” inhabitants of New Zealand. Its absurd to think they should and that this never-ending claims process can continue to roll along with many of the same old snouts in the treaty claim trough! Enoughs enough!

      2. Hi KC. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  4. Yes i have voted, i have been commenting on SunLive using the term( part) maori , i notice its catching on real fast after it was talked about a few blogs before,really getting up some peoples noses, brilliant!

    1. Hi Crazyhorse. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  5. I did that pole…but I cant believe the Herald letting brainless crap like that going to print though…very sad where the mentallity of the media, which in turn reflects the mentallity of the populus has gone….particularly, those choices for President….oh dear!

    1. Sunday Star Times is a dumbed down PC newspaper, much the same as The Press, but sadly that is typical of today’s NZ media. The choice of president highlights my point, current and has-been sportspeople, pop singers – but unfortunately they will get more votes than any worthwhile contender. I would not be at all surprised if the results of the poll are fiddled if they are not pc enough. For my news I skim through TV3 on line stopping at anything worthwhile reading.
      P.S. I put David Round for president, I saw him on Q&A this morning.

      1. Thanks for mentioning Q&A. Just watched it. I thought David Round came across quite well. Interesting that although Flavell has already made up his mind about enshrining the treaty he accuses David Round of trying to shut down the debate because he has done the same but reached the opposite conclusion.

    2. Hi Bruce. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  6. not sure how this on-line pole works…my effort won’t register…
    must be the ae-a-tee-a-rowa spelling.

    single issue party vote definitely a starter here.
    where do we sign ?? :

    cheers

      1. I answered every question, but it kept saying I had not. Poor and very frustrating. Then it had a SQL error. Won’t be trying again. Rather sick of seeing “Aotearoa” on everything, and as Racheal says above, no option to be called a New Zealander.

    1. Hi Paul. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  7. The use of the word ‘Maori’ when using it to describe some one with some maori blood line needs to be stopped in its tracks. As a new Zealander with Scots, Irish and a dash of English blood and a with a Scots surname I would no more call myself a Scot than I would call myself Irish or English. I am a New Zealander and with an a passport that says New Zealand on it.
    Anyone who insists on calling themselves Maori will probably at heart be separatists. We will judge them by their actions.

      1. Hi Trina. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

    1. Hi Don. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  8. Done. It was a challenge putting in my 2c-worth in 135 characters, you could write a novel on the pro-Maori racism in NZ. Thanks for bringing the (somewhat lame and amateurish) poll to our attention.

    1. Hi Peter. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  9. I believe if the required result isn’t met with the poll then it will be sensored to make it fit in with the radical/ government agenda.

    1. Of course it will be fixed/rigged/fiddled, whatever you want to call it if the result doesn’t suit.
      I don’t read newspapers anymore but when I did it was for news, not gossip, not sports, not latest so called fashion, not what bimbo is doing a fling with what sports person, not for silly magazine supplements.
      The Sunday Star Times has turned into a really big newspaper but actual news content would be about 2 pages worth at the very most.
      It would be to the benefit of NZ if we had investigative journalists/TV hosts of the calibre of Britain’s David Frost and Michael Parkinson.

    2. Hi Marvin. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

    1. Hi Graeme. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  10. Over a month ago I complained to the Human Rights Commission about race based maori privilege, handouts, grants, political party, seats on council etc etc. I had to give specific examples, which I did. I had to give contact details of the offending institutions, which I did. I got a reply with a case number saying it would be investigated and they would get back to me within 15 working days, which they did not. After numerous e.mails from me which went unanswered, I phoned them today and surprisingly the receptionist knew about this complaint and told me “our policy team is still working on it now” and I could expect a reply within the next few days. Can’t bloody wait! I am expecting the mother of all fob offs with the most doublespeak PC BS ever. Of course I will share their reply when I get it. My long winded detailed complaint was put on this blogsite a month ago. What scared me the most was how easy it is to find special race based grants/scholarships/favours/handouts etc on just about any NZ education website. It’s as if each is trying to outdo the other with their blatant racism to discriminate against 85% of all NZ’ers.

    1. Thanks for the note about your complaint. Please do follow up and hassle them to address it and then make sure you tell us all and make noise about it. Its time this #$%& was stopped!! If it was discrimination the other way – all sorts of radicals and extremists and bleeding heart liberals (NZ and International) would be calling it a disgrace and demanding it stop immediately! It appears equality is only important if you are a disadvantaged brown person, gay, a trannie or similar! Yell from the rooftops and continue to yell!

  11. Well, the respone has just arrived. What a disgusting reply it is. Never once did I say anything about “white New Zealanders”. I talked about “non-maori New Zealanders”. I actually feel sick from reading it.Here it is….

    “Thank you for your email of 22 March giving further specifics of your complaint regarding the discrimination experienced by white New Zealanders. You identified a number of initiatives as contributing to your experience, including the existence of the Māori party, Māori seats in Parliament, Māori wards in hospitals and provisions for Māori participation in legislation (among other examples).

    None of the examples cited in your email comply with the definition of discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, colour or national origin as defined in the Human Rights Act 1993 (the Act). The right of non-Māori New Zealanders to vote in general elections is not compromised, for example, by the existence of a separate Māori electoral roll and electorates. Each voter has the ability to vote for both a candidate in their electorate (either Māori or general) and a party.

    The Commission has made a series of public statements on similar initiatives. I refer you to our comments on the Māori party, on the NZ Māori rugby team (former Race Relations Commissioner Joris de Bres’ letter to the NZRU on the topic is quoted in full in this article), and the project we undertook on Māori representation in local government. Far from considering these policies and initiatives as discrimination, the Commission, in light of the international human rights framework, views them as a means of securing and protecting the rights of Māori as New Zealand’s indigenous people. That is not discrimination. I refer you to the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and its associated processes for further information. I also draw your attention to comments made by the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Indigenous Rights in 2005 about the historic and contemporary discrimination experienced by Māori (see section 54 in particular).

    It is obvious that you have a very deep sense of injustice arising out of the matters you have brought to the Commission’s attention. But a sense of injustice, no matter how strong, is not a sufficient basis for a claim of unlawful discrimination under the Act. As we have made clear in previous correspondence on this matter, unless you are able to supply specific details of a complaint of unfair treatment on the grounds of race, ethnicity, colour or national origin that you (or a relative or associate) have experienced, then we cannot act any further for you in this matter. For that reason we will not respond to any further emails from you unless your email refers to a situation that is different to that which you have already raised with the Commission, and where there is an indication that your race or any other unlawful ground was the reason for the way you were treated.

    Yours sincerely,
    Maxine Aoina
    Team Leader, Infoline”

    Our hard earned tax money helps pay for this organisation that encourages racism against 85% of New Zealanders. This is sickening and insulting and offensive to the majority.

  12. So the gist is that : Yes we know Maori have more priviliges as you pointed out, but it is legal because of the United Nations Declaration of rights for Indigenous people. That’s why the Maori party was so keen to be called “Indigenous” , and quietly moved under the radar , with the help of National….
    You have to hand it to them : that was very clever.

    They basically tell you : yes you are right , but go stuff yourself !

    Kudo’s for trying Derkj

    1. Yes well done for the effort Derejk.

      Only public anger and direct action will create any change. Politicians don’t like confrontation, especially when they are both on the wrong side morally and in terms of public opinion.

    2. Hi HW. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  13. I remember when the maoris wanted to go to join this BS UN indigenous group. I remember Key saying it meant nothing and gave the impression he was almost humouring them by letting them go. Many people told him it was not a good idea. Thanks Key, you useless lying excuse for an oxygen thief.

      1. So would I Duane. Trouble is, the bottom feeders who thing like this are too deeply entrenched inside the organisations that are supposed to be fair and unbiased, but clearly are nothing of the sort. The simple test for them is this: if you reverse the Maori and non-Maori participants in all the cases you referred to them, would they still find it acceptable, or would those cases suddenly become ” unlawful discrimination under the Act ” to quote them. I think we already know the answer to that question, but it would be worth asking if anyone can come up with a clever way of framing it which they cannot brush off.

      2. Hi Duane. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

    1. I concur that he will go down as the most gutless, spineless invertibrate of a PM New Zealand has ever had.
      I also remember him saying “it’s nothing to worry about”. with his stupid smile. A brand new can of worms or Pandoras box is going to open simply because he let happen these separatists going to New York on a tax payer junket that’s going to cost us more billions in the future.
      These very Machiavellion maori are much to cunning for our gutless politicians and media.
      It seems to me that no matter how outrageous a claim via the Waitangi Tribunal, not one journalist nor politician will challenge it when the vast majority of the country are scratching their collective heads.
      I’m reading Twisting the Treaty now and it seems that maori learned very early in history to make big claims and big protests to get almost anything they want from a mostly appeasing colonialist with no stomach for a fight.

    1. Basically some corporate part-Maori look on everything with ‘hungry eyes’ it seems to me!

      Forget any sense of equality, self-awareness, respect for others or thought or preparation for the future . . . it makes you want to weep with disbelief and fear for the country we are leaving our children.

    2. And, of course, there’s no ‘comments’ ability at the end of the article. It so often happens with Maori-based articles on Stuff. I wonder why…….

      1. Hi Peter. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  14. welcome to the new “money gravy train” the “indigenous express”

    What derejk has just posted confirms what I posted recently that according to g palmer “Indigenous people have rights”separate from the tow.

    Helen commented that the truth is that Maori were not indigenous to nz so not to worry,-yeah right

    Helen also mentioned that David Rankin a Ngapuhi chief has stated that Maori were not the first people to nz.

    There is other evidense to confirm this fact as outlined in the recent book by Ian Wishart titled “The Great Divide”

    So here is another government bureaucracy established by stealth,(you can guarantee g palmer and his academia mates will be behind this ie,advising and appearing on behalf of maori and getting handsomely paid of course)) I bet most of nz citizens will not be aware that there hard earned $ are paying for this rort.

    JA another ethnic based bureaucracy to be demolished when you get into parliament.

    1. Hi Albert. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  15. adding insult to injury…

    attempting to clear an item at NZ Customs.
    according to their most pc correct name-in-maori web site it’s a
    24 hour service etc etc blah blah..

    call the 0800 number and get a bollocks ” ke-oorra ” ” push 1 for credit card payments ”

    ( which I would have figured was fairly important )

    but no – its ” we are extremely busy please call back later ”

    well thats great.

    a web page any iwi would be proud of
    but way to busy to take payments.

    Monty Python couldn’t write a better script..

    cheers

    pb

    1. Ever since Monty Python appeared on tv (so very long ago…) I have associated their antics with members of parliament. Same initials, same performance.

      1. True that Peter C, I find it very hard to forget the Hon John Carters rendition of “The Ministry of Silly Walks during a sitting of Parliament a few years back now

  16. Hi Guys (and Gals!)

    Sorry I haven’t been much of a participant on here. Being self employed with 6 children, one being extreme special needs, time is at a premium at the best of times. We have also had quite a of extra stuff going on over the last month or so, including having lost two motor vehicles in accidents (no one hurt thankfully).

    I have been reading what and when I can though, and I just wanted encourage you all and thank you for all your valuable information and ongoing efforts in resisting this special privilege for “maori” rot.

    I wanted to thank you JA for all those meetings you have been holding, and for making so many more people aware of what it going on. I had hoped to attend one of them myself but as circumstances developed I just have not been able to do it sorry. You have truly been making a champions effort though and it must be an encouragement to see so many more people being made aware of things and giving support. I have to admit it has all gotten my hopes up that a political party may be a viable option. Well done and once again a huge thank you!!

    derejk, that was a fantastic effort and I want to say a personal thank you for taking the time and effort to do this. I think we all know how much time and effort it takes to write that sort of letter. This is a factor that tends to work in the favor of parasitic beurocrasy as it makes it very hard for the average hard working Joe to find the time required to engage with them.

    While their reply was of course pathetic and unjust, and may lead to the belief it was a waste of time, there is I believe a lot of value in having brought these objections before them and having forced them into a response. I’m sure that if they perceived a turning tide and were getting a 100 of this type of letter a week they wouldn’t dare to be quite so condescending and dismissive in their response.
    As HW has said their response at least gives us some further insight to what is going on and confirms without doubt what the Maori Party agenda was in signing up to the UN declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples, and the extra implications and difficulties we are now likely going to have as a result of that.
    There has been some activity relevant to this of late on the trade “opinion and politics” message boards which eventually got the better of me and compelled me toward some input.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=1252446&p=2&topic=7

    loppers posts are particularly interesting as he touches on the “indigenous” issue, and his input always gives give quite a bit of insight into how the grievance ingrained mindset is prepared to twist anything possible in order to justify a grievance and maintain for themselves special privilege status.

    I’m really not sure my efforts in responding are a good use of my time. Especially after seeing what others are doing on here holding meetings, doing pamphlet drops, and writing official letters etc. But sometimes I just think well its better than nothing, and I get so mad I think I might have an aneurysm if I keep stuff bottled up!

    Anyway, thanks again and keep up the good work everybody.

    cheers

    gavin

    1. Hi Gavin,

      I agree with your post and thanks to the others and add mine to them.

      I feel for you. I am also self employed and have 2 children with one a significant Special Needs and that keeps us more than busy. I can’t imagine having 6 with one extreme SN.

      I don’t know how you find having a SN child in our current climate. Apart from a general disability grant we get no other funding at all. This is particularly difficult to deal with in the education system.

      it upsets me greatly seeing so much money given away unjustly when people with a real need and just cause are ignored because they have the wrong ancestry.

      I wrote blog piece for JA to publish on this if he wants. If he puts it up I would be interested on your feedback.

      Cheers.

      1. Thanks Mike!

        Yes well as you would no doubt know having a special needs child certainly changes your life around and does away with lot of your well laid plans! lol. Having said that she is an absolute angel and in many ways has given us more than we will ever be able to give her back.

        No doubt you and I would have a lot of common ground regarding our experiences and frustrations with the system at times.
        Because of our circumstances we sacrifice a lot, and don’t expect or rely on much in the way of funding to be honest. But as you say it can be incredibly frustrating a times to be in need of both time and money, while at the same time seeing so many of our hard earned tax payer dollars being given away to those that have done nothing more to earn it than simply being “maori”.

        As for Key and his job summits mission statement regarding “looking after small to middle sized NZ businesses during the recession” What an absolute joke the “highly successful outcome” of that was – A cycling track (beneficial to Keys own tourism minister portfolio). And a nine day working fortnight (that the vast majority of small to middle sized NZ businesses would never ever qualify for).

        If you want to help my small business John Key, stop telling lies and keep your big nose out of it. Start by dismantling some the parasitic bureaucracies designed to milk more and more of my hard earned dollars at every turn. Presumably so you can then give as much of it as possible away to people who have done nothing to deserve it. (rant over!)

        I would be very interested to see what you have written Mike. But at the same time am mindful of how easy it would be to hijack Johns blog with our own particular issues. You are more than welcome to get my email addy from John and post anything direct if you like.

        cheers

        gavin

      1. Hi John. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

    2. Hi Gavin. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

    1. lololol, fruit loop alright!

      Tim Wikiriwhi seems like a hell of a great guy though.

      Thanks for posting the link to that JP.

    2. Hi John. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  17. I’m from the UK, Wales to be precise. My family go back thousands of years well before the Romans who invaded our shores near 2000 years ago.
    The Britons ( now Welsh) and the Scots/Picts in the far north came to Britain some time during the last Ice Age between 10 and 20 thousand years ago.
    The Welsh at least are believed to come from somewhere in eastern Europe. I’m not too sure about the Scots.
    The much more dominant English who filled the void 1600 years ago when the Romans left for Rome after a 400 year occupation of where England is today.
    The Welsh nor the Scots are considered indigenous to Britain today.
    And yet maori are considered indigenous after only 800 years. How can that be? Does one have to be brown or black and still run round in grass skirts to be considered indigenous?
    I don’t think for one minute maori have any claim to these lands. Britain saved them from themselves and they would surely be extinct if it were not for the British and real Treaty that ended tribal slaughter, cannibalism, female infantiside and constant war, pre 1840.
    Maori should be grateful to what the British gave them. But we know that will never happen.
    After decades of billions of dollars handed over simply to stop them protesting with violence is the most cowardly act by our politicians.
    The payments will never end and will continue to grow much bigger for posterity to bare the cost.
    The quisling and bereft of all integrity John Key and his gutless crew of ministers, plus a bias and pusillanimous media are setting this country on a course for civil conflict at some stage in our history. Maybe that’s what’s needed to end this separatism and money/ land grab that’s tearing this country apart.

  18. Reading this blog over the past few days has made it clear many of us have had a guts full of the way non-Maori are becoming 2nd class citizens in our own country.

    In an initial attempt to try to unite the huge number of us sharing this huge concern, I’ve created a Facebook Page called “Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality”. I’ve pasted the link below and encourage you all to join ASAP! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kiwis-for-Absolute-Racial-Equality/510446572335758

    The hope is that if we can bring together like thinking people we may be able to bring some structure to our concerned group and hopefully also gain a voice for interacting with government, politicians and/or media. To quote, of all people – J K Rowling, “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided”. I hope to see you, your friends and family joining the Facebook Page soon and starting to co-ordinate and build our united voice against this cancer that is risking the country we love!

    Cheers. Michael

    1. Hi Michael,

      I think your idea of having a facebook page and your choice of what you have called it are both good.

      Something that did concern me though was your choice of font and your fist in the air type logo. I felt these things gave your page a bit of a neo nazi look before I even had the chance to read anything.

      Just my opinion at the end of the day, but you might want to think about redesigning it a bit if you want to avoid being misunderstood by some.

      cheers

      gavin

      1. I also agree with your comment ” We need to be encouraging as much cross communication and co-operation as possible. ” In stating this I would like to share a very relevant link of Constitutional conversation by two knowledgeable, passionate and caring people.

        https://www.youtube.com/user/NZCPR

  19. We’ve created a NEW Facebook Page to grow support to END all Racially Targeted laws, policies, funding etc. We DO NOT accept one law for Pakeha & another for Maori & others.

    We’re building support & ask you all to ‘LIKE” our Page. Please DON’T just like this post – you need to click on the attached Page Link (below) & then “LIKE” the Page so we can connect with you. Please help us and share this Page with your friends!

    Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality
    This Page is NOT about racism, racial discrimination, hate or violence in any form. Members of our Page are ordinary Kiwis of any colour, race or ethnicity wanting to take a stand AGAINST racial inequality and/or racial favouritism of any type!

  20. Great posts. I’ve just read all of them and it’s certainly encouraging. A weazly predictablel reply to you, Derejk, to your very worthy letter. It would have taken a good deal of effort to list everything down and there is so much special treatment based on race that you would only have been able to scratch the surface.

    It all seems like a decidedly uphill battle but surely if we persevere and our numbers grow hugely, we will succeed. I always console myself that right will overcome wrong in time. I know it doesn’t always but surely it will this time??!! The Internet is a great tool and we need this to go ‘viral’ as they say.

    1. Hi Helen. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

      1. i have done, Michael. Good luck and I hope you get masses supporting you.

        I have to say that I too am not very keen on the clenched fist as it could give the wrong impression and undo any good you are trying to achieve..

    2. Hi Helen. If you haven’t already – can I encourage you to go to our newly created (last week) Facebook Page (Kiwis for Absolute Racial Equality) and click on the “Like” button at the top of the Page to support our push for complete Maori/Pakeha/non-Maori equality! Thanks in anticipation of your kind support! Please also spread the word with your like minded friends, family and colleagues! Cheers. Michael & team 🙂

  21. Check this out dudes; it’s a powerful message . . . how do we make it compulsory reading for all Kiwis?

    http://100daystodemocracy.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/the-farce-of-government-consultation-dishonest-and-condescending/

    I wonder if the National Party traitors ever read the comments about themselves?

    Or Labour Party members for being a ‘non party’, sterile?

    Or Progressive Greens? (We used to think ‘progressive’ was a ‘good’ word meaning positive & forward looking but no more)

    The Maori Party would be too busy in meetings with their fellow traitor kiwis, share brokers, investors and their gaggle of lawyers, or rewriting the past and dreaming of a powerful future to read commenters on their politics . . .

    1. Amy Brooke has an amazing way of putting all the facts down coherently. She says it all and, yes, it should be compulsory reading for everyone, especially the politicians.

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