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For Muslim, read Maori

The following email landed in my Inbox today like a thunderbolt.

Googling reveals some controversy over who wrote it, but it hardly matters. My point is this…

If you substitute the words Griever Maori everywhere you see the words Nazis, Islam and Muslims, you’ll see eerie parallels with present-day New Zealand.

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A German’s view of Islam

by Dr Emanuel Tanay,
psychiatrist

All that is necessary for evil to triumph
is for good men to do nothing

Edmund Burke

The bold  subheadings below are my additions.

A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of  large industries and estates.

When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

Good Germans Did Nothing

‘Very few people were true Nazis,’ he said.

‘But many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care.

I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools.

So, like the majority,  I just  sat back and let it all happen.

Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world as we knew it  had come.

My family lost everything.

I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.’

Good Muslims Do Nothing

We are told again and again by ‘experts’ and ‘talking heads’ that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace.

Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant.

It is meaningless fluff. Meant to make us feel better.

Meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of  Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this  moment in history.

It is the fanatics who march.

It is the  fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.

It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa.

It is the fanatics who are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave.

It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill.

It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.

It is the fanatics who zealously  spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals.

It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the  peaceful majority, the ‘silent majority’, is cowed and  extraneous.

Good Russians Did Nothing

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who  just wanted to live in peace.

Yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people.

The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

Good Chinese Did Nothing

China’s huge population  was peaceful as well.

But Chinese Communists managed to kill a  staggering 70 million people.

Good Japanese Did Nothing

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist.

Yet Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians.

(Most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.)

Good Rwandans Did Nothing

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery?

Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were ‘peace loving’?

Will Good Muslims Still Do Nothing?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt.

Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and  uncomplicated of points:

peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don’t speak up.

Because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them.

And the end of their world, as they know it, will have  begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts – the  fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Will You Still Do Nothing?

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is complicit in the  passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

So extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on!

Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on – before it’s too late.

Now, Islamic prayers have been introduced in Toronto and other public schools in Ontario.

And yes, in Ottawa too – while the Lord’s Prayer was removed.

The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.

And we are silent.

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Do Something

Unlike Canada, Australia, Britain, Ireland, the US and all of Europe, New Zealand has yet to be touched by the moronic, medieval, mind-warping madness of militant Islam.

Instead we have the moronic, medieval, mind-warping madness of Griever Maori.

Tame Iti and co. want you to think they’re just a bunch of bumbling buffoons. And most of them probably are.

But don’t kid yourself.

Tame Itis’s training camps in the Ureweras were real. I’ve read the Police affidavit. It’s frightening.

(But not as frightening as the consequences for me of showing it to you before the appeal is over — sorry. :-))

The affidavit shows that these are violent people, who were — and no doubt still are — planning violence against the New Zealand state.

Thanks to the Police, that threat has been averted.

For now.

And do you think Key and Finlayson’s $170 million-plus appeasement of Tuhoe will stop them?

I think they’ll be rubbing their hands with glee at the stupidity of the Pakeha, and going for more.

Let’s shut this Treaty Grievance Industry down, before it shuts New Zealand down.

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23 thoughts on “For Muslim, read Maori

  1. A very powerful post, John.

    Make’s me question the MMP system and if it is such a bright idea, especially when you see the way things are going now.

    The smaller parties are made up of people passionate about particular policies.

    How many of them are that passionate they are borderline fanatics?

  2. Very stirring and how very true. Do we learn nothing from history?

    I don’t doubt at all that Tame Iti’s mob had/have big plans and I’m sure all will be revealed in time. As you said it’s madness that we have given them an enormous settlement. They will just be looking on us once again as exploitable weaklings and it will inspire them further.

    I agree with you about questioning MMP Trina. It might be okay once we are a united country again but in the meantime it is making it very difficult to cut through all the vested interests to bring this about.

  3. MMP is definitely part of the problem, and should be abolished – but it won’t be. But MMP does not excuse the sort of slimy deals that various governments, and this one especialy, are doing with the enemy within. This article should serve as a total wake-up call to NZ – but for various reasons that is unlikely to happen. The same components of Maori self-interest, general apathy, disbelief, appeasement, outright sympathisers are all at work in NZ and it will take a major event – probably a kind of revolt or revolution – to really put an end to the ongoing outrage. Don’t ever underestimate the effort, stamina and courage required to successfully resist this evil tide – history tells us that nothing less than a powerful response will make any difference. Another parallel: the loss of influence of the Christian church, leaving a moral vacuum to be filled by all the wrong alternative concepts – with disastrous consequences. The much-weakened Church itself is largely to blame, along with the scoffing, know-nothing fools who think that it is not important to acknowledge a higher power and to live accordingly.

  4. John Ansell wrote: “Googling reveals some controversy over who wrote it, but it hardly matters… ”

    I think we need to be careful over this kind of thing. Googling doesn’t just reveal controversy over who wrote it. It reveals that it is a piece of fiction. See, eg:
    http://honeymoonover.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/viral-claptrap-germans-view-on-islam.html or
    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/t/Tanay-Merek-German-Islam.htm

    In my opinion, we should be ultra-careful not to say or do anything that makes us sound like Maori-bashers or conspiracy theorists.

  5. good lord, nice piece of scaremongering. And to compare present day Maori to the above is a damn lie! Even atrocious. I thought the whole idea of this blog was to get people on side for your “colour blind” state. Nothing colour blind about this – is this what you are actually aiming for John? Not colour blindness, just blindness. When you have a look at the blogs being added, you dont have any ideas about where you going…..other than to denigrate humiliate degrade Maori. An awful lot of discussion about how reprehensible Maori are, how Maori history is , how Maori are living today….nothing about moving forward..what your plans are after referendum, just on and on about how disgusting Maori are….are you actually aiming to promote disgust? Looks like it to me

  6. Anakereiti: I am aiming to show that Griever Maori are a disgrace to Achiever Maori, and a drain on New Zealand.

    I am aiming to show all New Zealanders that their history has been grievously distorted, and that it is time to put an end to the indulgence of these boorish overgrown teenagers.

    Maori have been complaining for decades about how poorly they’ve been treated, when in fact most of them have been treated with unprecedented compassion, not to say patience.

    That the Grievers remain at the bottom of the social heap is nobody’s fault but their own, and it’s time we heard some honest Maori stand up and acknowledge that.

    I have never wavered from the message that I support Achiever Maori, but you seem determined not to see that.

    Yes, I want a Colourblind State, where neither Maori nor European nor Pacific Islander nor Chinese nor Indian nor any other race gets special favours.

    I laugh at the way a journalist just described me as “controversial” for wanting such an outrageous thing as equality for all.

    That is why it’s such a battle.

    We’ve got people in positions of influence who are deeply brainwashed and biased in favour of one race.

    That is unfair, but they do not see it, because they’ve been brainwashed to believe that unfair is fair.

    And so I will keep jolting people until they open their eyes. Until they wake up to the reality.

    I just don’t see any other way.

  7. If you truly wanted a colour blind state John, then you would not be publishing articles that state, change nazi muslim islam with Maori, whether griever or achiever.

  8. Here, here, John. You have never ever waivered from the required result – equality and colourblindness for everyone. Like you said, it would be great if more Achievers would come on board. I know many agree with you in private but something seems to hold them back from actually coming out in public and saying so.

    Several already have come out openly in support, so let’s hope it gives the others the confidence to do so too. Together we could achieve our aim.

    Winston is making the right noises. I only hope he’s genuine and not just looking at votes. If he continues the way he is, he will have my support. I reckon if anyone can do it, he can.

  9. Your readers would be enlightened if they read “Before Maori” New Zealand’s first inhabitants by Ross Bodle which indicates that there are genuine peoples with blood lines to the Waitaha and perhaps the Patu-paiarehe people who are the genuine people of this land.

    It is these people who have been wronged, butchered, used as slaves and pushed into some sort of forced modern day unity with the Maori.

    Concerned New Zealanders including politicians like Winston should be demanding a full enquiry regarding the truth about early New Zealand History and the blood line/ DNA of the first inhabitants, rather than all bones artefacts being swiftly disposed by Iwi.

    There is no doubt Maori have grievances, but these should be settled with honesty and truth, not under the cloud of a Lie.

  10. Assuming as you do that Tama Iti represents Tuhoe to any degree is a mistake. Tuhoe are justified in their settlement and to date are the only Iwi to publicly fully document their history and publish it in a book. “Unbridled Lands” by Judith Binney.
    In a number of years of using the Urewera Park always found them great, that was until the Govt. gave their lands to DOC who then proceeded to strip them of their care of the land which is and was Tuhoe. That began the agravation of visitors. I’m happy to take Krugers word that the park will once again become free to all and without the aggravation that made going there a risk.
    You should also learn that “Cullen” was a name that twice ran raids into Tuhoe country. The first Cullen murdered two of Rua’s followers and was never held to account and the second ran the Raids into Ruatoki and Taneatua of recent times. You can guess at the drivers but its fair to say that other Maori from South of Tuhoe land coveted the land and the timber.
    Apirana Ngata was the ring leader the first time and everyone reckons he was such a fine guy.

    If there is one setllement that I agree with this is it. By the way there are 30,000 Tuhoe decendents and many in places that would surprise you.Their’s wasn’t about greivance it was about justice and fairness.

  11. Helen said:

    “Winston is making the right noises. I only hope he’s genuine and not just looking at votes. If he continues the way he is, he will have my support. I reckon if anyone can do it, he can.”

    Helen: Of course he’s not genuine, and of course he’s looking for votes. That’s all he ever does.

    Winston is a serial failure. He’s been in Parliament since the 14th century, but what has he ever done in this area except “make noises”?

    When he had the chance to do something for Maori as Minister of Maori Affairs from 1990, what did he do? Nothing.

    I suggest you have more faith in what we’re doing here, and less in ethically-challenged Muldoon clones. 🙂

  12. Anakereiti said:
    > If you truly wanted a colour blind state John, then you would not be > publishing articles that state, change nazi muslim islam with Maori, > whether griever or achiever.

    I have to say I think Anakereiti is quite right. In practical terms, a Colourblind state” means one in which it makes no difference to the legal status of a person whether or not he or she has any Maori ancestry (we already have anti-discrimination laws making it an offence to discriminate on ethnic origin in other ways).

    That would mean abolishing the “Maori” seats, and removing from legislation all references to the “Principles” of the Treaty.

    Many of those opposing our aims sincerely believe that morality and history are on their side. We have to persuade them that they are wrong. Asserting that they (or at least the part-Maori ones) have the morals of Muslim terrorists is not likely to help change their minds.

  13. Stephen- The recent raids into Ruatoki were justified and if the people of Ruatoki want to blame someone, blame Tama.

    The book you referred to is Encircled Lands.

  14. Don: Anakereiti is not my market.

    Anakereiti has shown on many threads, with her disparaging of Martin Doutre and others, that she is not available to be persuaded.

    Many commenters have done their best, marshalling excellent evidence, but she will not listen, preferring to parrot the party line: “No evidence, no evidence”.

    My feeling is that Anakereiti is not that dumb, just being defensive in a hostile environment. That’s understandable, I suppose. I actually admire her for sticking around.

    But I can’t expend energy worrying about whether the Anakereitis are going to come round to my point of view. I have to assume they’re unconvertible and focus on the convertible.

    The convertible are mainly the 85% of New Zealanders who are not part-Maori, and therefore not currently being catered for by their government.

    I am hoping that a proportion of the 15% who are part-Maori will also be interested. But I’m not holding my breath that many will stand up.

    They, more than anyone, know how violent these fanatical Maori are.

    I received a letter today from someone telling me that I’ve painted a target on my back that’s getting bigger all the time.

    Too bad.

    It is my goal to seek the truth, then tell it as plainly as I know how.

    I want to jolt, because if we don’t jolt the people awake, they’re going to find their country is gone.

    It’s astonishing how much opposition there is to telling the truth in this country. I call us the Land of the Long White Lie.

    To me, that just shows how deeply engrained cowardice is in the Kiwi psyche. It’s no way to live, no way for New Zealand to progress.

    So I’m going to keep speaking the truth, and to hell with it.

    Is it the truth that Maori fanatics have much in common with Muslim fanatics?

    Yes, it is.

  15. It wasn’t a threatening letter, Trina.

    It was from a guy who’s been a bodyguard in all the world’s hot spots, and wants to be mine.

    He’s pretty sure I’ll need one.

    Says I’ve got ‘osmium testes’. I think he was being complimentary.

    Yes, I’ve just looked it up – apparently osmium is very hard, has a very high melting point, and is very hard to compress.

    Ouch.

  16. Hahahahahaaaaaaa!

    Oh well that make’s me feel better, John. He must be hearing a few things in his circles – or – he is telling porkey’s to get himself a job 😀

  17. My feeling is that Anakereiti is not that dumb, just being defensive in a hostile environment

    Not sure if I should be flattered or insulted 🙂 the Anakereiti’s of nz should be your market John. I dont think your numbers stack up, and I have already said “i get the colour blind state”. What I dont actually get is how your trying to get there. But I shall just keep plodding along

  18. On September 19, 2012 at 11:21 pm John Ansell said:
    Don: Anakereiti is not my market.

    John, we have to remember that our aim of a “colour blind state” is only a metaphor. In concrete terms it means getting rid of the Maori seats, and the references to Treaty “Principles” in our legislation. That can only be done by Parliament, in effect by Cabinet.
    So we have to get into a position where the Cabinet of the day decides to introduce the necessary legislation

    We know from survey evidence that there are already many people (probably around 70% of the population, including a whole lot of part-Maori) who would support such a law change, but they are not putting pressure on politicians.

    Your strategy, if I understand it correctly, is to stir that majority up, and get them to realise how serious the situation is, so that they will rise up in their indignation and perhaps wrath, and somehow force the politicians to change the law.

    I have no problem with that strategy, but a major difficulty, as I see it, is that the 30% or so who don’t support the changes we want include a great many sincere and honest people who genuinely believe the validity of the separatist case. We need to persuade them.

    For some of them, that will be impossible. For example, Catherine Delahunty is probably sincere and honest, but my judgement is that her support for the separatists is based on faith, rather than study of the evidence.

    Anakereiti and Matthew Dentith, on the other hand, raise genuine questions, and if we want them to take our concerns seriously we need to answer them seriously.

  19. Thanks Don. As advised John, I am your target audience so to speak. Wee story..my husband is Maori, he is probably the closest Maori to being full blood that I know. He owns a business here in Otautahi and has about 14 employees. His pet name for me is Tama Iti – he considers me the most militant person he knows. He also cringes when he sees what is going on in Maoridom. And we have some fantastic arguments about it. But at the end of the day we can both see each others points of view. Now I know that he has been on this site and had a look round. He didnt endorse it but he also didnt negate its value. He had a couple of points . 1 He didnt like the label “achiever” “griever” , he as I do see Maori, as Maori, no labels required. 2 He is still unsure as to the actual aim, his query was – why if you are looking for a colour blind state, and all that it entails, posting blogs that are clearly not colour blind but actually seem to be inviting denigration of Maori. Which Im sure is not your aim.
    He hasnt seen this article, but I do know that he would be horrified at your comparisons.
    I could have spent some time pulling the article apart, and turning it round. I could have pointed out that “nazi germany” the rise, started with scaremongering about the Jewish..which is what this article appears to be doing, does that make you a nazi…..of course not. So I think its best i stop dwelling on this particular article.
    As Don points out, if your successful, you will still need the govt of the day to assist, and articles like this dont help your cause.

  20. Cheer’s anakereiti for providing your bit of back ground.

    It is helpful to understand the angle a person is coming from.

    What sort of country do you desire for future New Zealanders i.e our children and grandchildren etc, to live in?

  21. “My feeling is that Anakereiti is not that dumb..”

    Well , my feeling is that Anakeriti is as crafty as cart load of monkey’s !

    She is playing the devils advocate : If you can convince her, you have a pretty strong case !
    And she doesn’t swear spit and hiss like some on other web sites
    You need people like her John : You would miss her if she wouldn’t pipe up anymore. I think she is actually not adverse to the idea of a Colour Blind State…

    Spare a thought for her poor husband 🙂

  22. haha HW, its not as bad as it sounds! I have already said that Im not adverse to the idea of a colour blind state. But Im not crazy on how we appear to be trying to get there – I dont think putting us down is the way to do it and I also have no real idea of the impact if a Colour Blind State is achieved , if that makes sense

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